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another hurricane...

RighteousFunkBoogie

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4 hurricanes 1 year 1 state its been over 100 years since that happend all 4 of the hurricane names will be retired... the funny thing is that miami didnt get hit by one of them all we got is a little rain
 

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Yeah, its been crazy... Missed alot of school as a result, in fact school is already cancelled for monday...
 

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i'm in FL. i lost my power for 2 days because of francis.

i'm prepared this time.
 

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Well, I made it through without too much trauma. I can't say the same for one of my trees.
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I was out in my street last night, it was cool. Fucking winds steady 30-40 mph with gusts to about 55-60 mph. The streets were like streams. The power was still on, so the lights in the neigborhood showed the rain flailing every whichidamn way. The trees were swaying like crazy. A gust would whip up and the trees would start to scream. It was past "curfew". A fireman dude in his red Crown Victoria came cruising by with his spotlight darting this way and that, checking shit out. He passed on a street perpendicular to mine. He stopped and backed up to see why the fuck some idiot was out in the middle of the street in a tropical storm. He just drove on by once he saw my dog taking a shit in the yard. The dog had been inside all damn day. You can only hold it so long.
http://members.cox.net/johndude/tree8
I have 9 tree pictures total online, just change the number on the end (1-9)and enter.
 

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True, at least I'm alive. My bedroom is on the corner right next to where the tree was standing.
On that lighter note: I have some wood for that swed dude if he wants to build some chairs that can withstand the wind a little better. It needs to dry for a little bit though.
 

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During Isabel last year, I lost 22....................YES ......"Twenty-Two" Trees, from Front to Back Yard. THAT TOOK SOME CLEAN UP TIME!! But only one hit the House, little bit of cosmetic damage, Whole new Roof :D sometimes you gotta give it to those insurance peeps!
 

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22 :shock: Damn Pimp you live in the forrest? Pimp'n out little red riding hood man it aint right... :lol:
 

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Va Beach, isnt only Beach :lol:

Got a half acre front yard, and a couple acres in the Back opening up to a reservoir (cant fucking swim in it, or put a Boat on it though) stupid ass Drinking water :roll: Everyone should do what I do......ONLY DRINK BEER!
 

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Hurricane Katrina

yesterday, the gulf coast of louisiana, mississippi, and alabama were hit by what will be the biggest natural disaster in this country in my lifetime... a number of things have struck me since yesterday...

--the loss of life here will be massive in comparison to other hurricanes in memory, if not history...
--the economic damage will be enormous, homes and businesses ruined or gone, no one able to return to either for perhaps weeks or months
--the entire city of new orleans, and many other towns, could wind up completely destroyed and not rebuildable using reasonable standards...

turn back the clock a few months, and turn the globe halfway around...

i dont know what percentage of total tsunami relief came from my nation, but i know at last tally, we were leading the list, as we usually do... we were called "cheap" by nations offering far less.. we were told that it was our DUTY to donate more money than we had already...

WHERE THE HELL IS THE INTERNATIONAL DISASTER RELIEF EFFORT NOW??????

the impact of this hurricane, in lives and property lost, is horrendous... that said, even without any foreign help (i recognize that there will likely be SOME offered, probably from nations such as canada, the uk, japan, and poland), this nation WILL rebuild, and WILL recover, and WILL prosper...

the rest of the world needs to take a long hard look at what has happened here, and compare the international response to other natural disasters that have happened elsewhere... the US is told that it is but one member of a community of nations WHEN SOMEONE ELSE IS HAVING TROUBLE... please, uncle sugar, open your wallet and help the needy!!! but dont you dare expect anything but criticism if YOU ever end up as the nation in need...

this hurricane was not related to global warming.. none of them are.. the german press can fuck off on that one, as can anyone echoing those false sentiments... the rest of the world needs to think long and hard about what they choose to do or not do now, because there are a number of Americans wondering about this double standard, and wondering why we would owe anyone anything, or why we should help anyone in trouble who is simply pointing the finger of blame and not offering words of encouragement and hope...

i sincerely hope that other nations have something to say or do that is positive, and soon... words are meaningless, but pass for something worthwhile now... at minimum, we deserve that after bailing damn near every other nation on this planet out of some trouble or tragedy...
 

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Yeah, New Orleans looks like its pretty much fucked.

Condolenses to the people who live around there and I hope you get it figured out soon.
 

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Thinking from an Engineering background this is one huge mess.. Determining which services are still working/destroyed and designing new systems will be a bitch to do... Not to mention buildings still standing but could be demolished as they may not be structurely (sp) sound... I hope for a relatively speedy recovery..
 

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I used to live in Gulfport. I wish everyone a speedy recovery, and feel for everyone that has had any loss.
 

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I am currently at the University of Miami (GO CANES) and i can tell ya first hand... it was only a category one when it hit us on thursday, but we still dont have cable, the surrounding area still doesnt have power, we didnt have classes thursday night, all of friday and all of monday, huge trees are down everywhere, and we just recently got hot water back. This hurricane fucked shit up pretty bad down here, and it was only a 1... i can only imagine what it is like in the places it hit as a 4. My heart goes out to every affected... luckily it was well-handled by the school and everyone here is safe.
 

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I wrote this synopsis on another forum, but I'll share it here for our international friends so they can get an idea of the scale of this natural disaster:

Well, it appears the worst has happened. New Orleans is now under water. The levees and dikes that hold back Lake Ponchatrain have failed and without power, the city's pumps cannot pump the water back out. Even if power was restored, there's nowhere to put the water until the dikes can be fixed. New Orleans is basically a poor city where 25% of the population live below the poverty line. Many of these people live in the lowest lying parts of the city, closest to the lake and many do not have insurance to help them rebuild. It could be up to a month before power is restored.

The water, in which most of the city is now under, is turning into a toxic soup as it mixes with sewage, debri, gas and other chemicals that have been washed away from homes and buildings.

Much of the Gulf Coast cities of Biloxi and Gulfport are literally gone; wiped away by a 20' storm surge that swept up to a mile inland. Up to 1 million people are without electricity. It was these areas that found themselves on the eastern edge of the hurricane eye, where the winds and storm surge are the highest.

Now the the tropical depression is traveling into the interior of the country, where it's diminished winds of between 50 and 75 mph have spawned numerous tornados. The massive amount of moisture that the storm collected up from the warm Gulf waters will now be dumped in an area from Mississippi up through the Ohio valley.

This will probably be the costliest natural disaster in US history (eclipsing Hurricane Andrew that wiped out South Florida). We know it's bad when our President decided to cut his vacation short by one day to oversee recovery efforts.

After reading the paper and watching the news, it appears that the situation is going from bad to worse. The death toll is already in the hundreds, but it will take a while to get a final count because it is feared that many people are buried under rubble or have been washed away.

In Biloxi and Gulfport, Mississippi, huge river barges were sent crashing onto shore by the 20' storm surge and the 145 mph winds. In the process, they literally flattened several blocks of homes that lined the Gulf Coast area. One area showed giant rolls of raw paper, weighing over one ton, that got washed off of a barge and were strewn about where houses used to be.

The main roads and highways into New Orleans have either been washed away or are flooded and impassable. This means that the supplies (food, water, gas, medicine) cannot get in. On top of that, a large watermain has broken and anyone in the area who has not been flooded out, now, for the forseeable future, has to boil their water before they can drink it.

The longer the homes and buildings stay submerged (hundreds, maybe thousands of homes are flooded up to their roofs) under the now toxic water, the larger the possibility that these buildings will become permanently uninhabitable because of what the water and the pollutants do to the building materials. In other water disasters, the water eventually recedes. However, because of the atypical situation in New Orleans, the water isn't going anywhere for a while.

Looting is another problem. Lawlessness and anarchy has taken over in some communities. The National Guard and other agencies have been concentrating on rescuing people off of the roof-tops. One scene had a police car half submerged under water in the middle of a street as people in the background were looting various stores. A police officer was being interviewed. I'll paraphrase what the officer said about the situation: There's not enough police to take care of the problem (looting). Even if there was and we arrested people, there's no place to put them because all the jails are flooded and besides, all the police cars are starting to run out of gas.

Initially, the historic "French Quarter" was spared because it was built on higher ground to the Northwest of the central downtown core. However, the water continues to empty from Lake Ponchatrain into the city and now the "French Quarter" has several feet of water flowing down it's streets and it's rising.

A former Mayor was interviewed about the disaster. He said, "The worst of the worst case scenarios has been realized."

As a minor side note, the Superdome where the New Orleans Saints play their home games took a big hit but remained structurally sound enough to protect the 10,000+ refugees who took shelter there. However, the building will not be safe to play any games there this season. Even if it was, you could not consider hosting an NFL game their this season because of the devastation that has taken place in the area. It will be very interesting to see what the team and the NFL will do, but it is on the very bottom of the list of things to worry about.

An American city has been destroyed. Not just any city, but one with a unique history, culture and character. It may never be rebuilt. If it does, it will cost billions of dollars.
 

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On a sidenote: Gatorman, are you still with us?
 

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As news continues to worsen, it's clear that this has become a disaster affecting the entire nation. Besides the economic impact of gasoline prices which will probably top $3.00 a gallon in the coming days, much of the Southeast will be directly affected as New Orleans and the surrounding communities evacuate the entire population of well over 500,000 people. Schools and other public buildings throughout the region are being converted into emergency shelters to house the refugees and hotels are being booked from as far as Houston and Atlanta. This is not a short-term situation as the areas hit by the disaster could become inhabitable for weeks or longer.

From today's NY Times:

Much of Gulf Coast Is Crippled; Death Toll Rises After Hurricane

By JOSEPH B. TREASTER and N. R. KLEINFIELD
Published: August 31, 2005

NEW ORLEANS, Aug. 30 - A day after New Orleans thought it had narrowly escaped the worst of Hurricane Katrina's wrath, water broke through two levees on Tuesday and virtually submerged and isolated the city, causing incalculable destruction and rendering it uninhabitable for weeks to come.

With bridges washed out, highways converted into canals, and power and communications lines inoperable, government officials ordered everyone still remaining out of the city. Officials began planning for the evacuation of the Superdome, where about 10,000 refugees huddled in increasingly grim conditions as water and food were running out and rising water threatened the generators.

The situation was so dire that late in the day the Pentagon ordered five Navy ships and eight Navy maritime rescue teams to the Gulf Coast to bolster relief operations. It also planned to fly in Swift boat rescue teams from California.

As rising water and widespread devastation hobbled rescue and recovery efforts, the authorities could only guess at the death toll in New Orleans and across the Gulf Coast. In Mississippi alone, officials raised the official count of the dead to at least 100.

"It looks like Hiroshima is what it looks like," Gov. Haley Barbour said, describing parts of Harrison County, Miss.

Across the region, rescue workers were not even trying to gather up and count the dead, officials said, but pushed them aside for the time being as they tried to find the living.

As the sweep of the devastation became clear, President Bush cut short his monthlong summer vacation on Tuesday and returned to Washington, where he will meet on Wednesday with a task force established to coordinate the efforts of 14 federal agencies that will be involved in responding to the disaster.

The scope of the catastrophe caught New Orleans by surprise. A certain sense of relief that was felt on Monday afternoon, after the eye of the storm swept east of the city, proved cruelly illusory, as the authorities and residents woke up Tuesday to a more horrifying result than had been anticipated. Mayor Ray Nagin lamented that while the city had dodged the worst-case scenario on Monday. Tuesday was "the second-worst-case scenario."

It was not the water from the sky but the water that broke through the city's protective barriers that changed everything for the worse. New Orleans, with a population of nearly 500,000, is protected from the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain by levees. North of downtown, breaches in the levees sent the muddy waters of the lake pouring into the city.

Streets that were essentially dry in the hours immediately after the hurricane passed were several feet deep in water on Tuesday morning. Even downtown areas that lie on higher ground were flooded. The mayor said both city airports were underwater.

Mayor Nagin said that one of the levee breaches was two to three blocks long, and that the Federal Emergency Management Agency had been dropping 3,000-pound sandbags into the opening from helicopters, as well as sea-land containers with sand, to try to seal the break. Late Tuesday night, there were reports that the rising waters had caused a nearby station that pumps water out of the city to fail.

New Orleans is below sea level, and the mayor estimated that 80 percent of the city was submerged, with the waters running as deep as 20 feet in some places. The city government regrouped in Baton Rouge, 80 miles to the northwest.

Col. Terry Ebbert, the city's director of homeland security, said the rushing waters had widened one of the breaches, making the repair work more difficult.

While the bulk of New Orleans's population evacuated before the storm, tens of thousands of people chose to remain in the city, and efforts to evacuate them were continuing. The authorities estimated that thousands of residents had been plucked off rooftops, just feet from the rising water.

"The magnitude of the situation is untenable," said Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco of Louisiana. "It's just heartbreaking."

Looting broke out as opportunistic thieves cleaned out abandoned stores for a second night. In one incident, officials said, a police officer was shot and critically wounded.

"These are not individuals looting," Colonel Ebbert said. "These are large groups of armed individuals."

Officials at the Louisiana Office of Homeland Security confirmed that officials in Plaquemines and Jefferson Parishes had tried to call for martial law, which is not authorized by the State Constitution.

Offering up howling winds of as much as 145 miles an hour, the hurricane hit land in eastern Louisiana just after 6 a.m. Monday as a Category 4 storm, the second-highest rating, qualifying it as one of the strongest to strike the United States.

Preliminary damage estimates from insurance experts on Monday ranged from $9 billion to $16 billion, but they were pushed up past $25 billion on Tuesday, which could make Hurricane Katrina the costliest in history, surpassing Hurricane Andrew in 1992, with $21 billion in insured losses.

As the scope of the damage to oil and gas facilities in the Gulf of Mexico became more apparent, energy prices rocketed to record highs. Experts predicted that further increases were likely.

Floodwaters were still rising as much as three inches an hour in parts of New Orleans late Tuesday. In other areas, they were beginning to subside.

"I don't want to alarm anyone that New Orleans is filling up like a bowl," Michael Brown, FEMA's director, said. "That isn't happening."

More than 10,000 people remained stranded in the Louisiana Superdome, which was without power and surrounded by three to four feet of water. Swaths of the roof had been peeled away by the powerful winds, and it was stifling inside without air conditioning. Toilets were reported to be overflowing. A woman with an 18-month-old baby said her last bottle of baby formula was nearly empty.

During the day, additional survivors were deposited at the Superdome by rescuers, but the absence of food and power, not to mention the water lapping at the doors, made their continued stay perilous. Hundreds of critically-ill patients had to be evacuated out of Charity Hospital and Tulane University Hospital because of the flooding.

At Tulane, they were removed by helicopter from the roof of a parking garage. The staff of the Times-Picayune, which was able to publish only an online version of its edition on Tuesday, was forced to flee the paper's offices.

The Coast Guard estimated that about 1,200 people had been rescued Monday and thousands more on Tuesday. Efforts were hindered by phone and cellphone service being out in much of the city.

Getting food and water into the city was an urgent priority. Officials said that there was only one way for emergency vehicles to get into parts of the city to bring in supplies.

"We're racing the clock in terms of possible injury," said Michael Chertoff, the national homeland security secretary. "We're racing the clock in terms of illness, and we're racing the clock to get them food and water."

The hurricane, downgraded to a tropical depression by late Tuesday morning, continued to putter along into adjoining states, though its teeth were gone. It had left its mark on numerous Gulf Coast communities. In Mississippi, for example, Gulfport was virtually gone, and Biloxi was severely damaged.

From the air, New Orleans was a shocking sight of utter demolition. Seen from the vantage point of a Jefferson Parish sheriff's helicopter transporting FEMA officials, vast stretches of the city resembled a community of houseboats. Twenty-block neighborhoods were under water as high as the roofs of three-story houses. One large building, the Galleria, had most, if not all, of its 600 windows blown out.

Sections of Interstate 10, the principal artery through the city, had pieces missing or misaligned, as if the highway were an unfinished jigsaw puzzle. Parts of the 24-mile-long Lake Pontchartrain Causeway, the world's longest overwater highway bridge, were missing as well. Fires had broken out in sundry buildings, and hundreds of thousands of people were without power.

One woman swam from her home on Monday and then walked through the night to take shelter in a 24-hour bar in the French Quarter. Another left her flooding house but could not persuade her elderly roommate to come with her. Her roommate insisted, "God will take care of me."

People waded through waist-high water, looking to determine the fate of their homes. Rescue workers, who were plucking people off roofs in rescue cages, reported seeing bodies floating through the water. Mayor Nagin said that as he flew over the city he saw bubbles in the water, which he said seemed to signify natural gas leaks.

The mayor estimated it would be one to two weeks before the water could be pumped out, and two to four weeks before evacuees could be permitted back into the city. Another city official said it would be two months before the schools reopened.

Tens of thousands of people are expected to need temporary homes for uncertain durations. The authorities were looking at renting apartments, putting people up in trailers and establishing floating dormitories.

Parishes east of the city were also battered. The president of Plaquemines Parish, on the southeastern tip of Louisiana, announced that the lower half of the parish had been reclaimed by the river. St. Bernard Parish, adjacent to New Orleans, was largely rooftops and water.

In South Diamondhead, Miss., on St. Louis Bay, all that remained of the entire community of 200 homes was pilings. Boats were stuck in trees.

"Yeah, we caught it," said Randy Keel, 46. "We basically got what we're wearing."

Everyone was "walking around like zombies," Mr. Keel said.

Some Mississippi casinos, which had been floating on barges, were swept half a mile inland. An oil platform in the gulf was transported within a hundred yards of Dauphin Island, the barrier island at the south end of Mobile County, Ala., and much of that island was underwater.

Peter Teahen, the national spokesman for the American Red Cross, said: "We are looking now at a disaster above any magnitude that we've seen in the United States. We've been saying that the response is going to be the largest Red Cross response in the history of the organization."

Meanwhile, the evacuated survivors tried to accept the images they saw on television. Vonda Simmons, 39, fled New Orleans with relatives on Saturday afternoon to stay with friends in Baton Rouge. When she saw footage of the hard-hit Lower Ninth Ward, where she lived, she assumed she had lost everything but she accepted fate's hand.

"We have the most prized possession," Ms. Simmons said. "We have each other."
 

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I've been watching this with fascination since it became clear that Katrina was headed straight for New Orleans. I've been unsure of what to say as I have so many conflicting feelings about this. But some things have to be said.

cable,

"WHERE THE HELL IS THE INTERNATIONAL DISASTER RELIEF EFFORT NOW??????"

I would ask, "Where the hell is our federal government?" As I write this its Thursday afternoon, four days after the storm, and the conditions in New Orleans are unbelievable. It appears that New Orleans police are the only security with a few national guard around the Superdome. People have no water, no food, no security and no housing. If you didn't know better, you'd think this was Bangla Desh! WHERE IN THE HELL ARE THE FEDS?

I keep hearing the talking head pols say that things are "on the way" and "will get started shortly". What in the heck kind of BS is this? I could have understood a bit of that on Tuesday, but not today. This is UNFORGIVABLE.

Another thing that really rankles me (from Crushers 2nd post):

"The scope of the catastrophe caught New Orleans by surprise."

This is total BS. What has just happened to New Orleans has been predicted for a long time. Probably since shortly after its inception. I first learned of the New Orleans problem about 20 to 25 years ago during a course in hydrology or fluid dynamics (I don't remember which). At that time we spent two or three classes discussing exactly what would happen if the city were hit by a Cat 4 or 5. Just a quick Google search found this pretty good history of the subject (and notice that this article is from December of 2000):

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BJK/is_15_11/ai_68642805

The incompetance we're seeing here is unbelievable. Why is it that step #1 wasn't to helicopter in several thousand National Guard to provide security and assist with rescue? That should have been done on Monday right after the storm left.

Why is it that bottled water and food are not being dropped to people as I write this? Thats not hard and is certainly needed.

Does anyone have any answers to this? This is disgraceful in the US.
 

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I finally heard from my family for the first time yesterday, I will be in La. this weekend to get them the hell out of there. I will be 50 miles from New Orleans, I will get to witness the carnage firsthand.

Anybody who decides to sideline coach this effort needs to shut the fuck up, and look at the entire picture, there are more problems than just New Orleans. Put the damn thing into perspective.
 
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