Reverend James
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Joseph Ratzinger has been elected the newest of the new Popes.
Gibson said:I was hoping it would be Vin Diesel.
cableguy said:posted by me on another board, but just at home here...
first, i am not catholic... second, i am not even christian...
it is bothersome to me that so much criticism has been levelled--already--at a RELIGIOUS leader (also head of state), that belies the fact that those doing the criticizing, catholic or not, have NO clue what they are talking about... they say he is too conservative... they say abortion should be ok... they say gays should be allowed full standing in the church... they say women should be priests, and that priests should be allowed to marry...
first and foremost, catholocism is NOT anything remotely close to a democracy... second, moral relativism has no place in religion, and catholocism has been one of the very few to not cave into this temptation based on popularity/unpopularity vs. what is deemed proper, correct, and right by said religion... if you are catholic, and believe in any of the stated complaints above, you need to seriously examine yourself and choose a different religion, as you have clearly strayed far from that flock... sometimes what is right is not what is popular... the moral high ground here is crystal clear... do what is right, not what is popular... itis not the place of the catholic church to bow to public sentiment... to criticize it for doing what it is supposed to do simply shows arrogance and ignorance... to report such things is irresponsible and lazy...
moxdevil said:The Catholic Church is far from being a democracy but then again so is political democracy. For one Catholicism has changed uniquely since its beginnings, the non-awareness of this shows a superficial knowledge of the history of the catholic faith. The church didn't put down a code of what is right and wrong never to be changed, if that was the case then it wouldn't have made so many compromises with paganism, Niceanism etc. There used to be a time when christian (catholic) bishops denounced science and learning as mere vanity and egotism, they could support this with chosen passages from the scriptures. Who now in the Catholic church proposes the same? Nobody. That i call yet another change. If not for passages in Leviticus, some of the above could also become compromises. And hey all you out there who own a crucifix- something about not worshipping carved images- hey it was popular with the pagans.
Roman 1:26-27
For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their woman exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
cableguy said:homosexuality is condemned in the bible... this is fact, not fancy... as such, any religion using the bible as its gospel should, to be taken seriously, use it as written...
there are three passages in the old testament that refer to it as "an abomination" and punishable by death... i will ignore these, as any fool can plainly see there are major differences between the old and new testaments of the bible--justice being the easy one to point out (eye for an eye vs. turn the other cheek)...
stingray, your analogies do not work, as they refer to the attitude of one religion toward another... catholics and protestants, though both christian, are definitely different... the catholic church should never change its doctrine because of political or popular pressure, as doing so would void the purpose of its existance... to be a true member of any religion, there is a list of rules that one must follow... "i dont want to because society doesnt regard that one as valid" is no excuse, and again, you should look for a different religion...